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That Sober Guy Podcast

My name is Shane Ramer. As long as I was high I didn't have to feel. After 17 years of struggling with drugs and alcohol on September 11th, 2013, I got some help. Life is pretty good today, and I like to talk shit and laugh about it all while sharing some of my own experience with the hope that it might help someone else. I try not to take things too serious, and I fold my toilet paper, people who crumple have to all wrong! Check us out at

Apr 17, 2017

Patrick Smith is the Program Director at Orange County Recovery Services in Huntington Beach California. Patrick is also in long term recovery. Through his own experience, Patrick has been able to kraft a balance between compassion and toughness to help others out of a life trapped in the trenches of addiction. In this episode we discuss boundaries and the importance of structure in a recovery program, along with hearing some of Patricks own struggle with addiction.


This episode was recorded at the 2017 innovations In Recovery conference in San Diego CA sponsored by Foundations Recovery Network